I am very happy to hear that! This crafting grid IS confusing for newbies. I think that was a big design flaw but many Minetest games are like that. Modern Minetest games should probably use a different and simplified crafting system, I always thought of the crafting grid as clunky.
Haha, yeah I admit it's a bit MTG-biased if I'm being honest, especially the furnace. It's partially because Minetest has a Minecraft bias. I think making a tutorial completely generic is probably too hard and maybe would not be that helpful after all.
(Note: This review is identical to my text to Rhotator because both mods are very similar.)
Initially I was very excited to see this mod and the new concept seemed so obviously better. For normal full cubes, this is clearly superior. Yes, the MTG screwdriver indeed has bad usability, so an improvement is so much needed.
But then I noticed a huge problem: Rotating becomes hard and inconvenient again if you have to deal with complex selection boxes. Because with complex selection boxes (like a toilet), you have to hit not only correct side, but also a side which faces the right way. Since this will change drastically after every click, you can no longer spam-click a node to quickly get to the correct rotation, but you must always move the mouse and concentrate to hit the right "side" of the selection box. Faces that face the wrong way willl be frequently exposed so it is easy to hit them and screw up. That's a problem because it means you still need to think when rotating.
And the push method might sometimes be useless if the selection box face is very small (like only on the right side, meaning you can't push to the left) and you must walk to a different side.
This issue could be mostly circumvented by games by simplifying their selection boxes but sometimes that's not what you want …
For many games, this will still be a massive improvement, but they can't have complex selection boxses.
Overall, this mod is still a thumbs up, because it is an improvement over the MTG screwdriver. I appreciate all new concepts of rotation.
Initially I was very excited to see this mod and the new concept seemed so obviously better. For normal full cubes, this is clearly superior. Yes, the MTG screwdriver indeed has bad usability, so an improvement is so much needed.
But then I noticed a huge problem: Rotating becomes hard and inconvenient again if you have to deal with complex selection boxes. Because with complex selection boxes (like a toilet), you have to hit not only correct side, but also a side which faces the right way. Since this will change drastically after every click, you can no longer spam-click a node to quickly get to the correct rotation, but you must always move the mouse and concentrate to hit the right "side" of the selection box. Faces that face the wrong way willl be frequently exposed so it is easy to hit them and screw up. That's a problem because it means you still need to think when rotating.
And the push method might sometimes be useless if the selection box face is very small (like only on the right side, meaning you can't push to the left) and you must walk to a different side.
This issue could be mostly circumvented by games by simplifying their selection boxes but sometimes that's not what you want …
For many games, this will still be a massive improvement, but they can't have complex selection boxses.
Overall, this mod is still a thumbs up, because it is an improvement over the MTG screwdriver. I appreciate all new concepts of rotation.
and a quick way to swap or flood-fill nodes in a schematic
I intentionally did not provide tools for that, this mod is focusing on schematic importing and exporting. For the editing the world itself, you should use other mods like WorldEdit. There won't be powerful editing tools in this mod as this will a) make the mod more bloated and b) will clash in functionality with other mods like WorldEdit. That having said, there are two very basic replacement tools (replace air with schematic void and vice-versa) and that's it.
Actually, this project is not technically abandoned. I do have a good number of ideas on how to move this project forward. I just don't know when I will seriously pick it up again. I have other projects that I want to give my attention to first.
For some strange reason, when I download this package from Minetest, it still creates a folder named “labybrinthus” instead of the correct name “labyrinthus”. But the technical name is set to the latter.
Note the former name was accidentally used BEFORE, but I edited the package since them. It seems this did not help.
Why is this?
The media is licensed as CC BY-SA-NC. I noticed this mod is using media from other games.
For example, the player texture (“Sam”) is from Minetest Game, but MTG is under CC BY-SA. This license does not permit you to unilaterally change the terms to something else (like adding a NC clause). That's a problem. I did not check the other files yet.
Yet this mod is licensed (in part) under CC BY-SA-NC. This is strange.
NC means it's forbidden to use this material if there's the slightest hint of it being used commercial. Even a simple banner ad on a website could be enough to violate this rule.
Is this a mistake?
In this community, using the NonCommercial clause is discouraged (although not strictly forbidden) as it makes much harder to combine this work with other works.
Are there any data protection implications by this? Please say what kind of data you collect. I am not sure if its a violation of the rules. But personally, I think it's bad taste to do so. Also, the game does not warn it phones home, there's not even opt-out. That's rude.
Is server access strictly required? If you can make it work without depending on an external server, please do so. This would the the best solution.
Some releases went wrong here. Not actually the release itself, but the ContentDB trying to accept them. I got an error trying to post 1.5.0 after 1.6.1.
Can you please delete the faulty releases, because I can't. :-(
I am very happy to hear that! This crafting grid IS confusing for newbies. I think that was a big design flaw but many Minetest games are like that. Modern Minetest games should probably use a different and simplified crafting system, I always thought of the crafting grid as clunky.
Haha, yeah I admit it's a bit MTG-biased if I'm being honest, especially the furnace. It's partially because Minetest has a Minecraft bias. I think making a tutorial completely generic is probably too hard and maybe would not be that helpful after all.
(Note: This review is identical to my text to Rhotator because both mods are very similar.)
Initially I was very excited to see this mod and the new concept seemed so obviously better. For normal full cubes, this is clearly superior. Yes, the MTG screwdriver indeed has bad usability, so an improvement is so much needed.
But then I noticed a huge problem: Rotating becomes hard and inconvenient again if you have to deal with complex selection boxes. Because with complex selection boxes (like a toilet), you have to hit not only correct side, but also a side which faces the right way. Since this will change drastically after every click, you can no longer spam-click a node to quickly get to the correct rotation, but you must always move the mouse and concentrate to hit the right "side" of the selection box. Faces that face the wrong way willl be frequently exposed so it is easy to hit them and screw up. That's a problem because it means you still need to think when rotating.
And the push method might sometimes be useless if the selection box face is very small (like only on the right side, meaning you can't push to the left) and you must walk to a different side.
This issue could be mostly circumvented by games by simplifying their selection boxes but sometimes that's not what you want …
For many games, this will still be a massive improvement, but they can't have complex selection boxses.
Overall, this mod is still a thumbs up, because it is an improvement over the MTG screwdriver. I appreciate all new concepts of rotation.
Initially I was very excited to see this mod and the new concept seemed so obviously better. For normal full cubes, this is clearly superior. Yes, the MTG screwdriver indeed has bad usability, so an improvement is so much needed.
But then I noticed a huge problem: Rotating becomes hard and inconvenient again if you have to deal with complex selection boxes. Because with complex selection boxes (like a toilet), you have to hit not only correct side, but also a side which faces the right way. Since this will change drastically after every click, you can no longer spam-click a node to quickly get to the correct rotation, but you must always move the mouse and concentrate to hit the right "side" of the selection box. Faces that face the wrong way willl be frequently exposed so it is easy to hit them and screw up. That's a problem because it means you still need to think when rotating.
And the push method might sometimes be useless if the selection box face is very small (like only on the right side, meaning you can't push to the left) and you must walk to a different side.
This issue could be mostly circumvented by games by simplifying their selection boxes but sometimes that's not what you want …
For many games, this will still be a massive improvement, but they can't have complex selection boxses.
Overall, this mod is still a thumbs up, because it is an improvement over the MTG screwdriver. I appreciate all new concepts of rotation.
That's an interesting idea.
I intentionally did not provide tools for that, this mod is focusing on schematic importing and exporting. For the editing the world itself, you should use other mods like WorldEdit. There won't be powerful editing tools in this mod as this will a) make the mod more bloated and b) will clash in functionality with other mods like WorldEdit. That having said, there are two very basic replacement tools (replace air with schematic void and vice-versa) and that's it.
FYI: Textures are from the PixelPerfection texture pack for Minecraft. You can read the MCL2 README file for details.
Then the brewing screenshot no longer makes sense, right?
Actually, this project is not technically abandoned. I do have a good number of ideas on how to move this project forward. I just don't know when I will seriously pick it up again. I have other projects that I want to give my attention to first.
Thank you very much! ^^
Strange. Now it doesn't happen at all anymore, no matter what I do. Did you touch anything?
For some strange reason, when I download this package from Minetest, it still creates a folder named “labybrinthus” instead of the correct name “labyrinthus”. But the technical name is set to the latter.
Note the former name was accidentally used BEFORE, but I edited the package since them. It seems this did not help. Why is this?
The media is licensed as CC BY-SA-NC. I noticed this mod is using media from other games.
For example, the player texture (“Sam”) is from Minetest Game, but MTG is under CC BY-SA. This license does not permit you to unilaterally change the terms to something else (like adding a NC clause). That's a problem. I did not check the other files yet.
Yet this mod is licensed (in part) under CC BY-SA-NC. This is strange.
NC means it's forbidden to use this material if there's the slightest hint of it being used commercial. Even a simple banner ad on a website could be enough to violate this rule.
Is this a mistake?
In this community, using the NonCommercial clause is discouraged (although not strictly forbidden) as it makes much harder to combine this work with other works.
It looks good now. Now this package just needs a new release before it “counts”.
I don't know if this is intended, but when I click on Download, the Zip file somehow also contains the entire Git history. o_O
I have discovered that some sound effects included in this mod are sadly released under a non-free content license. This makes this mod non-free.
https://github.com/D00Med/scifi_nodes/issues/31
I just clicked on the forum link but it leads to a completely unrelated topic.
No.
I found a mod with the shortname “spleef” from 2014: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10612
I made a typo in the tag name when importing version 3. Please delete it, thanks. ^^
OK, fixed.
The version 1.0.1 zip file seems to be broken. It still says “importing ...”
I have changed the shortname due to approval of author.
Mod verified working in 5.0.0. I removed the upper version cap for you.
I don't know if the mod works in 0.4.16 or 0.4.17, so I didn't add a lower version cap.
The shortname is set to “labybrinthus”. :(
Changing it would be trivial, but it will mess up player's interfaces. :( :( :(
@rubenwardy: What should we do?
Haha, you're thanking the wrong person. I'm not much involved in Minetest development and not involved at all in the development of the Content DB.
Are there any data protection implications by this? Please say what kind of data you collect. I am not sure if its a violation of the rules. But personally, I think it's bad taste to do so. Also, the game does not warn it phones home, there's not even opt-out. That's rude.
Is server access strictly required? If you can make it work without depending on an external server, please do so. This would the the best solution.
Your game has a crashing bug.
If you rightclick the wire extension block at coordinates (307,8,212) and click on “Create”, the game crashes.
Done.
Done.
Done.
Meh, Content DB really, REALLY should completely automate away the displaying of the dependency list … Too much redundancy. >_>
I consider this mod obsolete.
Thanks.
Sigh. Another botched release. Can you please remove 2.0.0?
This mod does not hard-depend on
vote.Some releases went wrong here. Not actually the release itself, but the ContentDB trying to accept them. I got an error trying to post 1.5.0 after 1.6.1. Can you please delete the faulty releases, because I can't. :-(
There are the only releases that are OK:
1.6.1 [MT 5.0.0+] [2da56] created 2019-03-20.
2018-07-08 created 2018-07-08.
Everything else is garbage and should be deleted.
Nevermind. I somehow managed to have an old version of Voxelgarden installed alongside the new one. I used the old one ... :-(
Forget above post.
This game is not 5.0.0-ready yet. It insta-crashes; I get an error about old nodeupdate function.
This should be named “X-Decor”, not “Xdecor”.
This game is actually called “Legend of Minetest”, not “Legends of Minetest”.